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The Ryen Russillo Podcast

Muhammad Ali Special, Part 2: With Sugar Ray Leonard and Bob Arum

The Ryen Russillo Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.813.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2 of a two-part series, Ryen Russillo is joined by "Sugar" Ray Leonard to discuss working with Muhammad Ali's trainer, Angelo Dundee, "The Super Fight" between Leonard and Marvin Hagler, when fighters are reluctant to retire, the toll the sport of boxing takes on the body, and more (0:34). Then Ryen talks with legendary boxing promoter Bob Arum about his unusual beginnings in the boxing world, stories from Muhammad Ali's fights with Joe Frazier and George Foreman, dealing with the fallout of Ali's refusal to fight in the Vietnam War, the end of Ali's fighting career, and more (18:37). Host: Ryen Russillo Guests: "Sugar" Ray Leonard and Bob Arum Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is part two of Muhammad Ali podcast.

0:13.0

So we're going to pick it back up with sugar red lenders who gets into working with

0:18.0

Angelo Dundee a little on his career bringing a full circle with the health scares for

0:22.0

all fighters and legendary promoter Bob Aaron on his years with Muhammad Ali.

0:34.0

What's your best memory of of Dundee who I always love in the Ali stories and how he seemed

0:40.0

to be the one.

0:41.0

I don't want to say he's the only one sugar ray but he felt like he always was thinking of Ali

0:47.0

first. He didn't want him fighting listed. He was like he's not ready. He's not ready.

0:53.0

It felt like Dundee in a very complicated business always seemed to have a simple

1:00.0

mind to this to it that was beneficial to the fighter. If that's fair for me to say, I mean

1:04.0

that's kind of my observation of it removed.

1:08.0

You know what separated from my standpoint was separated Angelo Dundee from most trainers

1:17.0

is that he was so calm and collective and a lot of stuff takes place in that corner.

1:24.0

I mean as far as you know you come back after a tough round your trainer has to be calm and

1:32.0

it can be shouted and screaming. But then against some fighters do need that they want

1:39.0

that they need to get pushed up. Come on, come on. You lose him because Angelo said the

1:44.0

perfect sound bite. You're blown it's on your Blondin. He said just but it was calm.

1:49.0

Right. It was calm. He said great. You're blown it's on your Blondin. It was with the

1:54.0

Tommy Harris fight. The first time he heard it's by I should say.

1:58.0

And I mean he said the right thing and I knew exactly what he meant. And I went out there

2:04.0

the next round and I did what I have to do.

2:09.0

Is that your favorite corner story because I could I could follow up like what else you got?

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