The author of Hate Inc. How the Media Became What It Is.

This is a terrific book, especially for somebody in the media, but I think they'll enjoy

it as well.

And recruiting stories, we got a bunch of basketball, one sort of some huge names and

life advice.

This is somebody who I've been a huge fan of for a long time.

Kind of surprised that I didn't hook up with them earlier, but Matt Taibe, one of the

great writers I think of our time with Rolling Stone, he probably saw his work there and

now sub-stack, you can get all the work.

I love Cryptopia when it first came out.

And then Hate Inc. is the book that I kind of want to talk about.

We'll kind of just kick it around.

And Useful Idiots is also his podcast.

So Matt, what's up, man?

Thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me on, Ryan.

Big fan of myself.

Okay.

So one of my favorite things about you is I think you're one of the great observers of

our time.

And I always love that line from zero effect, where the movie where I think you even reference

this, but yeah, I love that reference because I love that movie.

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