Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to move the sticks. For today's podcast, we have a special football baseball crossover focused on team building.

You know him as the lead draft analyst on NFL Network. He's also a color commentator for the Los Angeles Chargers.

He scouted for the Ravens, Browns and Eagles. It's Daniel Jeremiah. He played five years in the NFL as a cornerback and return man scouted for the Seahawks and Panthers and was a legend for the TAR heals.

It's Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody? DJ Bucky here move the sticks as we continue on our special crossover edition of the move the sticks podcast. How you doing, Bucky?

Man, I'm great DJ. Look, part one of this project was outstanding.

Having on general managers to talk about what they look for in players and building teams, but part two is even better.

Yeah, this is something I think you guys are really going to enjoy. This is a conversation unlike the first one which was all just with with general managers and people have filled that position.

This one is with former players, current coaches and some other media members that really understand the game of baseball and and some carry over there to how it helps us in the evaluation process as football evaluators and team builders.

So I think you guys are going to really enjoy this one and the first guest to start us off is Mark de Rosa, former baseball player.

You remember him as a utility player played both in the infield and the outfield, the braves, the Rangers, the Cubs, the Indians, the Cardinals, the Giants, the Nationals, the Blue Jays.

A fantastic background as a player is one of the best analysts on television as well. You'll see him on MLB Network, but also as a football background.

He played football from 93 to 95 at Penn, so he understands the importance of the crossover there with the sports.

And here's our conversation with Mark de Rosa.

All right, Mark, thank you so much for taking the time for us today.

I'll start out with the easy question. How are you a Cowboys fan?

Easy answer. I actually grew up, I could draw my blinds and see MetLife, Giants Stadium when I was in.

I was a Cowboy fan, my dad, my old man was a huge giant fan. I shared a room with a brother who was six years older, and he was like, he always wanted to stick it to my dad and be different.

And he was a Cowboy fan, and we had the star in the room, and that's what I grew up. And I really didn't have a choice.

And to be honest with you, the Cowboys, it was a tough existence early growing up because they struggled for a while, went through a one in 15, but we beat the redskins, all the same.

And then we got hot, and right around 16, 17 years old, they were winning Super Bowl's handover fist.

Well, I've got to be honest here. I grew up a Cowboy fan.

They used to be San Diego, California. I had a Danny White, Huffy Jersey, I remember like a little Huffy Jersey, a little Huffy helmet.

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