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Stories Are Soul Food

Moving Beyond "What Is This Story Saying?"

Stories Are Soul Food

Canon Press

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8787 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Stories Are Soul Food, Nate Wilson and Brian Kohl discuss the difference between what a story tells and what it does. How do stories move people? How does the audience respond? Along with insight of how to read Ashtown Burials from the author!

Transcript

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0:00.0

What is it saying is important?

0:01.6

Because a lot of things are saying stuff.

0:21.1

But it's more than that. What is it doing to people and does God have not like it? I need to like it if he does. Wolf of Wall Street, technical value, incredible. Does God like it? No. I don't think so at all. But he did tell that story with that character. It's based on a true story he really did this.

0:24.5

Is Scorsese there trying to tell something true?

0:26.2

Is he trying to do something? Yeah, he's trying to show a crash of a particular wolf.

0:28.8

Did he succeed?

0:29.9

No.

0:30.4

He actually generated a bunch of meme celebrations for a culture of guys who want to be like that.

0:37.0

It became a celebratory thing in the wrong way.

0:39.2

Met a ghost of a king on the road when I first fell. Fire burning to my knees to my knees.

0:45.5

I fell. Made a ghost of a king on a row. Back at it. Sass. Here we are. Sass Finn again as if we never

0:53.2

lost our rhythm. Yeah, we're back at it. Yep. And here we are doing one about, well, drawing meaning from text. Now, that sounds really boring. So I'm not going to actually describe it that way. I'm going to say I'm bored, Brian. And I think also as an author, it's probably one of your least favorite things when people

1:11.3

are like, but what does it mean?

1:13.6

So we're going to try to dodge that while also perhaps it's better to start with the problem,

1:20.7

which is that most people don't think at all about what a means.

1:24.7

What does it mean?

1:25.8

What does it mean?

1:26.9

What are you saying right so you mentioned

1:29.9

i think uh last last week's episode you talked about pride and prejudice and how great it was

1:34.2

yeah do we head into a novel asking what does it mean should that be the question that somebody

1:39.5

who reads pride and prejudice immediately has what is it? So slightly different formation from what does it mean?

1:47.1

So I've described for aspiring writers in my fantastical Wordcraft series and elsewhere

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