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Be There in Five

Mother, Son, and the Aioli Spirit (Director's Cut)

Be There in Five

Kate Kennedy

Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.97.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 113 minutes

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This week, Kate revisits an infamous episode from March 2020 about dips, sauces, and dipping sauces.

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody, welcome back to Be There in Five podcast. I'm Kate Kennedy, your host. I hope everyone's staying warm. I hope everyone's staying as sane as one can. I am sitting by my faux. Fireplace in my

0:24.7

office wearing a quince sweater. I think it's sponsoring this episode. Love an affordable

0:29.0

cashmere sweater. It's like a turtleneck and I'm doing an Olson tuck, which basically means you

0:33.7

put a like turtleneck or a high collar over your head but you don't pull your hair out

0:38.7

all the way. But it's that messy bun thing where like some people look artfully messy in ways

0:45.6

that like there's no way they like pulled out a hair here and there, you know, clothed,

0:49.8

ploff the undone look. They just simply exist that way. But then when you do it, you can't

0:54.8

quite figure out the right amount of like messy or undone to make it look like you didn't try.

0:59.3

So anyway, that's where I'm at right now. It's also known as, you know, 11-year-old wants to know

1:03.7

what she'd look like with a bob. Next to the Martha Washington front hair flip done at

1:08.8

suburban pools. I'd say it's one of the top five most notable

1:12.8

hair tricks of my youth. I would say one is also realizing that you don't need to buy a topsy

1:19.8

tail to be able to do a topsy tail because your fingers arguably topsy your tail better than the

1:24.2

topsy tail does. And it's just a plastic pick with a circle at the end.

1:28.1

Speaking of things no one ever needed. Um, okay. So while I'm on, uh, writing hiatus, I've been

1:33.2

picking out the episodes that I think deserve a second life, whether it's going back in the

1:38.5

archives to resuscitate or mash up something or, or give you stuff from Patreon. And I have

1:43.4

some other fun stuff planned. But this week wanted to hear from you about what you wanted to hear. And like I literally, like I should have known better. I was kind of expecting Mormon mommy bloggers or something. The verdict is in in terms of your votes. And when the first couple rolled in, I was like, well, you guys are trying to sabotaged me. And the one we're talking about today, I was, if you know, you know. This is an episode that is such a point of contention for me, but also such a, also is a source of like joy and such an inside joke with the Beths that like I also knew I had to do it. And something about this episode like over time, the idea of it really embarrasses me. But I guess I need to take you.

2:20.8

Let's walk through this. Okay, so I'll take you back to when this was. This was a trying time. And when I say that, you're like, which one? We've been through a lot of trying times in the past several years. But specifically, this is like a very unique point in time. The date is March 14th, 2020. The world is about to change

2:35.7

as we know it. There's a lot we don't know. Everyone is freaking the fuck out. And social media is

2:41.1

about to erupt into a whodunit of finger pointing, hot take giving and general outrage toward

2:48.6

anyone and everyone trying to go out for a St. Patrick's Day bar crawl.

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