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The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

Most People Are Trapped Waiting for an Apology That's Never Coming | S2S 538

The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

S2S podcast

Business, Health & Fitness, Education, Entrepreneurship, Self-improvement

4.96.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Most people who feel stuck, angry, or burned out are not dealing with what they think they are dealing with. That is the throughline of Episode 538, a conversation that starts with the aftermath of the 1% Conference in Chicago and goes somewhere much deeper. CJ's wife Candis Quinney walks in fresh off one of the most powerful 1% Conferences the S2S family has ever put together, and her presence immediately changes the energy in the room. Candis is not here as a plus one. She is building something, a movement for women who are done performing, done pretending, and done settling for a version of life that looks good on the outside and feels hollow on the inside. Her story, including a moment of sitting in a closet with everything she was supposed to want and still breaking down, is the kind of honesty that most people spend their whole lives avoiding. It is also exactly why we named this episode what we named it. Before the episode even gets rolling, Karl opens with a reframe that sets the tone for everything that follows: God does not always allow the pain. Sometimes it is just our decisions. What is remarkable is that He works through it anyway. ET's conference debrief becomes one of the most honest moments in recent S2S memory. He traces his lifelong anger back to its real source, being uprooted from Chicago as a kid, losing his cousin-brothers, resenting a stepfather he never asked for, and spending decades needing to control everything because nobody was ever in control for him. The breakthrough comes when he finally connects the dots and realizes the plan he spent years fighting against was actually the plan that made him who he is. The episode also goes deep on DeDe's gift, her ability to see what no one else sees, illustrated through the story of Donovan, a child in their church navigating an impossible situation while his younger brother fights kidney failure. It is a quiet masterclass in what it looks like to show up for people with your actual gifts, not just your checkbook. If you are a woman who has ever smiled through something that was breaking you, this one is going to meet you exactly where you are. And if you have ever chased a life that looked right on paper and still felt empty behind closed doors, pull up a chair. This conversation was made for you. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: God's Plan Despite Our Decisions 00:00:55 Welcome and Team Introductions: Post-1% Conference Reflections 00:02:49 Conference Takeaways: Building Your Own Table With People You Trust 00:04:18 Behind the Scenes: The Real Work of Live Events That Nobody Sees 00:16:02 The Commonality of Humanity: We All Want the Five Pillars 00:17:17 Candice's Mission: The Off-Ramp for Women Who Have Everything But Aren't Enjoying It 00:05:18 DeDe's Role: The Eye That Catches What Everyone Else Misses 00:09:49 The Phone Detox Challenge: Too Much Access to Everything 00:21:58 Candis' Story: Forgiving Her Father and the Optical Illusion of Life 00:27:09 The Wedding Day Decision: Moving As If You Already Have the Relationship You Want 00:30:36 The Truth About Candice's Father: When the Answer Still Isn't What You Hoped For 00:36:58 Eric's Story: I Still Don't Have Good Parents 00:38:32 The Joseph Revelation: God Allowed This to Happen So You Could Save Others 00:39:15 The Bruce Banner Effect: When Unresolved Trauma Makes You Someone You Don't Like 00:43:13 The American Dream Versus the Divine Calling: Stop Comparing Your Life 00:53:25 Losing Control and Finding God: When DD Took Over the Conference 00:55:00 The Healing Begins When You Realize Your Parents Were Broken Too 00:57:49 Closing: You Don't Want to Be Me, You Want to Be on Stage Never miss an episode: https://www.youtube.com/@SecretToSuccess?sub_confirmation=1 Join the S2S Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/s2spodcast IG: @s2spodcast Listen on Apple Podcasts: Search "Secret to Success" on Apple Podcasts Secret to Success is hosted by Eric Thomas, Karl Phillips, CJ Quinney, and Jemal King.

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0:00.0

Y'all two are the only two that I know that got through fatherhood tribulations. So how do you show up as ease and really live a happy existence regardless of what happened behind you? There's two points. One of his vision, the idea of you could see two things in one, right? I can look at it one way and say he did, duh, dot, dot, dot, or he didn't do all these things, but then I can't leave out the fact of all the things that God covered for me.

0:23.8

So that's one.

0:24.5

And the other way... way and say he did duh, dot, dot, dot, or he didn't do all these things, but then I can't leave out

0:21.5

the fact of all the things that God covered for me. So that's one. And the other one is the selfish aspect of it, right? I deserve a good dad. So for anybody having a tough relationship with their mom or with their father or whatever, it's like, you deserve a good relationship with your parents. So go get it. You know, Joseph told his brothers, y'all didn't do this to me.

0:38.5

God allowed this to happen.

0:39.7

But that was the biggest shift for me when I read Joseph. relationship with your parent. So go get it. You know, Joseph told his brothers, y'all didn't do this to me. God allowed this to happen.

0:39.7

So that was the biggest shift for me when I read Joseph. And I went to my father and was like, hey, you free, bro. This is what God is allowed to happen. And had you been there, I probably wouldn't have been this version of myself had you been in my life. your thought, but correct me if I'm wrong,

0:51.8

theologically, spiritually, but I don't think a lot

0:54.2

of this is God's playing in. And this is just

0:56.0

Carl personally. You get what I'm saying. But correct me if I'm wrong, thes, baby.

1:35.5

What's going on, world?

1:36.6

Welcome to another edition of the Secret to Success podcast.

1:40.1

I'm your host, CJ.

1:40.6

I joined as always by the Bayesian sensation, Mr. Carl Wesley Phillips.

1:45.0

What's going on, y'all? What did do?

1:47.0

Douglas in the building. Douglas, what's going on, man?

1:49.4

I blast. And I have the distinct privilege.

1:54.8

Come on.

1:55.3

Let me say, let me tell you this. Ain't been an upgrade like this since.

1:59.6

Come on. Come on. The Lakers got Luca out this since. Come on. Come on.

2:01.7

The Lakers got Luca out of nowhere.

2:04.5

Come on.

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