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🗓️ 26 August 2024
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Join us as historian Matthew Harris returns to discuss what happens when members of the Mormon Church First Presidency go rogue. We explore George Romney's support of Civil Rights versus Ezra Taft Benson's involvement with the John Birch Society. We'll also dive into the impact of white church members marching in the Civil Rights Movement and how figures like Stewart Udall, Cleon Skousen, Robert Welch, and Hugh B. Brown challenged the Brethren at Church Headquarters with their views and publications.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another additional Mormon stories podcast. I'm your host |
| 0:03.8 | John Delinn. It is June 20, 2024 and today we are in part 8 of what I think is a really |
| 0:10.6 | important series on Mormon stories podcast covering the new book second-class Saints, |
| 0:17.5 | Black Mormons, The Struggle for Racial Equality by Dr Matthew Harris. Please buy it now. |
| 0:23.4 | If you don't own it, go to Amazon or Benchmark books. |
| 0:27.6 | It's an amazing book. |
| 0:29.1 | But it basically chronicles the development of the priesthood and temple ban on Black Mormons from the |
| 0:37.6 | 1830s and 40s to its abolishment in 1978. |
| 0:44.3 | We've done seven really important episodes. |
| 0:47.1 | We highly recommend that you watch them in sequence. |
| 0:50.1 | Today's episode covers the second half, the second three quarters of chapter four in the book. |
| 0:58.0 | And today we're going to be covering at least four really cool topics. |
| 1:02.0 | We're going to talk about two rogue apostles, one Hubie Brown, who was a member of the |
| 1:06.1 | first presidency and what he did to go rogue to fight for civil rights. And we're going to talk about |
| 1:12.0 | Esantab Benson Mormon Apostle, |
| 1:14.4 | eventual prophet who went rogue trying to oppose civil rights as well. |
| 1:20.6 | We're also going to be talking about Governor George Romney, Father Mitt Romney, and his attempt at running for president and how that was an inconvenient problem for the church, as well as Stuart Udall and other Mormon |
| 1:35.5 | slash lapsed Mormon congressman and and what they both did to kind of cause headaches for Mormon church leadership. |
| 1:46.2 | And then also we're just going to talk generally about civil rights, the fight for or against civil rights, both in the United States and in Utah, |
| 1:58.0 | specifically and how the Mormon Church and Mormon Apostles got involved. |
| 2:02.0 | So that's what we're going to be covering today. and Mormon apostles got involved. |
| 2:02.6 | So that's what we're going to be covering today. |
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