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Felger & Massarotti

More on the Celtics Offseason / Bedard on Stephon Gilmore / the Final Word (Hour 4)

Felger & Massarotti

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4.1978 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

  • (00:11) Felger and Mazz continued to discuss the Celtics offseason.
  • (11:08) The guys recapped Greg Bedard’s visit and talked about the status of Stephon Gilmore.
  • (34:42) The Final Word with Jim Murray

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0:00.0

B-Pod Studios.

0:06.8

This is Felger.

0:08.6

Belkstra-Damas.

0:09.7

You're going to get anybody half-decent for free.

0:12.3

Presented by Draft Kings on 985, the Sports Hub.

0:25.7

So that 5 p.m. deadline obviously came and went for Gordon Hayward, but they've pushed it back to Thursday.

0:27.9

Like, that's official? I mean, I know there's not an official.

0:31.6

Yeah, I mean, official from the most reputable NBA blue check marks.

1:45.1

And I'm sorry, when I was trying to hear what you were saying, Mary, that last report about there was a follow-up to the Hayward thing. Yeah, Kevin, Keith Smith, rather, Keith Smith, NBA reporter for Yahoo said per league sources, if Gordon Hayward gets traded, it's likely to be via sign and trade. The teams that have expressed interest, and there are several, all want a long-term commitment. So this is what this is setting up here. Yeah, and that all makes sense. Sure. That all makes sense and that's the hang up. They've got to finalize the trade and the contract terms and they're just not there yet. There's still, you know, there's other chips to fall, free agents to move and trades to make and a draft to do. And when sort of the dust settles on that, his destination will become more clear. The compensation becomes more clear. And then you do the thing. Then you sign and trade. And there it is. The Celtics backed themselves into a corner here in a lot of different ways. One is, look, Hayward clearly wants out of here. Okay, because again, this whole thing is precipitated by him threatening to opt out and leave on his own. So he's at least working with the team, which they should be grateful for, because he could have told him to stick it and go on wherever he wanted. Okay, now again, the money might not entirely match up, but regardless. Well, this, and I'm just to jump in, this can help him too because this opens up the number of teams that can sign him.

2:01.8

True. Right? Because if it's just... Teams that are over the cap can now trade for him. Thank you. Right. If he's a free agent, he can only go to teams with cap room and there's only like a five of those. If it's a trade, you swap money for money and now a team that's over the cap is now involved. Right, and it probably gets him a more desirable location because a lot of the themes of cap space suck.

2:00.8

So he probably gets to go to a better place. But regardless, the bad news for the Celtics is how many guys have to leave here before you start to realize what the hell is going on in there? So Kyrie wanted out and find Kyrie's a putt. So see you later. Horford's a good guy.

2:33.8

So whatever happened with Horford, he didn't want to come back either. And now Hayward wants out, and Hayward's got the reputation of being a pro. So what's the issue there? And I'm not telling you that Hayward's not a two-year-old, that he likes to play video games or anything else. Because on some level, they're all two-year-olds. but he doesn't want to be here either.

2:37.1

So, like, you look at that and say, why are all these guys leaving?

2:51.9

Hey? else because on some level they're all two-year-olds but he doesn't want to be here either so like you look at that and say why are all these guys leaving what's the issue and i well you raised this last weekend it's a fair point so i don't want to steal the ideas my own no no steal it go with it i mean i think so like why does gordon hayward want to leave so bad and again the where i end up with this whole thing is what does that mean for Tatum? Because that's what it's all about. I mean, if you're this team that's on the Ascent, and you got Tatum and you got Brown, and why do all these guys want to go? Why do they want to leave? What is it about the environment that's making them say, uh-uh? So you can cite individual excuses if you want for all three of them, but now it's three.

3:11.4

Three, all-star players, veterans in the league.

3:16.0

That you lured as free agents wanted out.

3:19.2

So like, what's the issue?

3:20.6

Oh, so Kyrie wasn't a free agent, but you get my drift.

3:23.6

I mean, really, it's like, you know, so the Celtics can blow the happy songs all they want. But there is something there as to why these guys don't want to play here. Okay, meanwhile, quick reset on our Patriots thoughts. We had the big boy Greg Bedard in earlier from Boston Sports Journal. And to me, the most revealing and important thing that he said during his stint, Murray, is that the path exists for the New England Patriots, too? Let's hear that. What do you expect from this team the rest of the year? That's another way of asking, is there a path? There's a path for the Patriots certainly to get competitive, 9 and 7, 10 and 6.

3:58.0

Is that going to be good enough at the end of the day?

4:00.4

I don't know.

4:01.2

That's the real question.

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