Hey, hi, welcome to our very first more mama's boy. I'll produce one of these, I'll try to be once a week or maybe a couple times a month when I've got a ton of content that I think you could enjoy and it's done to fit into the whole weekly schedule. And I was really excited about this interview

and I planted a couple of weeks ago.

And I'm really excited for you to check it out.

So if you're brand new to this podcast,

this is not a typical episode, I'll invite you, especially

you come in from the Enigram and Coffee people, check out my other episodes.

It's a podcast that I do based around the wisdom of my mom and we talk about our lives and we talk

about, let's see today on the other episode, we talk about sombreros and can white people wear them.

It's a fun podcast. If you like radio morning shows and that's what I am a radio morning show host, I think you'll hopefully enjoy this, but also got a lot of wisdom that I think can change your life.

So that's why we're here today.

I am excited for my guest today

because this is one of those terms

that I heard from a girl that I was dating,

and I, of course course instantly did it because I was trying to impress her and I

learned so much about myself all because of a number and it's probably a term that you may have heard as well and you may actually follow her on Instagram.

This is Sarah Jane Case. She is an author, speaker, and podcaster out of Asheville, North Carolina and I know her from her

her Instagram account which is Enigram and coffee

Eniagram and coffee and I'll link to all this in the show notes

she also has a podcast inigram and coffee and a brand new book

that's coming out called the honest inigram. Sarah Jane, it's so good to have you

here today. Oh I'm so excited to be here. I purposely did not want to do too

much research on the topic because I didn't want to come in being like yeah I know exactly

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