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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

More Happier: Watercoloring, Novel-Writing & 80’s Bestsellers

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

We discuss how we’re doing on some items from our “25 for ’25 lists,” and how book writing is going for both of us. Plus we talk about the joys of reading commercial fiction from the 1980s.

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

Hello, we're here for more happier, a podcast where we talk about getting happier.

0:16.4

Join us for some weekend listening.

0:18.6

It's observations and reflections, but a little bit of a looser weekend vibe.

0:23.5

Hey, Elizabeth. Hi, Gratch. Today we'll talk about one of the items on my 25 for 25 list and how that's

0:30.1

going and also something that's on Elizabeth's 25 for 25 list and how that's going for her. But first,

0:36.6

something making us happier. Elizabethssa, what's making you

0:39.3

happier these days? Right, Gretch. This is very summer, I feel like. What is making me happier is

0:45.4

rereading all of these novels from the 80s that I love. Big 80s blockbuster bestsellers.

0:53.2

Ah, like what?

0:54.8

So I reread the other side of midnight by Sidney Sheldon, which I remembered loving, but I had no memory of it whatsoever.

1:04.9

Now I'm reading Scruples by Judith Krantz.

1:08.3

I think Judith Krantz is probably like the writer of the 80s blockbuster novel, right?

1:14.8

Or one of them. And I have on deck to read next. I also got Princess Daisy by Judith Krantz.

1:21.9

I remember loving both of those novels, especially Scruples. I want to go reread it right the second.

1:29.0

Does it hold up?

1:29.9

Maybe not as much as I expected, I will say, but very enjoyable.

1:36.3

It's just fun to be back in that world.

1:38.4

I think I was motivated to do this because I read this novel by Elaine Goldsmith Thomas called Climbing in Heels,

1:46.8

which just came out, but it was set in the 80s.

1:50.3

So it was like about three female Hollywood agents in the 80s.

1:55.4

So it got me sort of craving like the 80s power suits and the big hair and jewelry and all of that. So it put me in a

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