Early in ministry, Leroy Wagner was a sincere pastor and a discouraged husband.

You can't share the gospel when things are not as they should be in the home.

The more difficult our relationship became, it created more difficulty, of course, in ministry.

This is the Revive Our Heart difficulty, of course, in ministry.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss-Walkmood, co-author of True Woman 101 for March 25, 2019. Music As a doctor, Pamela Edwards got used to taking charge of situations.

And when she got married, she continued that practice.

And I was very authoritative.

And I came to our marriage,

wanting him to do things this way and that way and thinking you ought to be this way and that way. And I was, I was pretty pushy. And I remember being very insistent sometimes that he do

certain things the way I thought they ought to be done to the

point where he just went into his cave and wouldn't come out.

The Lord started using Revive Our Hearts and the teaching of Nancy DeMoss-Walgamuth to speak

to Pamela's heart. She started to hear that she could use her strength for God's glory, but do it in a way that

respected her husband and left room for him to use his strengths too.

Pamela remembers when she first heard revive our hearts.

And I remember I was on the treadmill, and she was talking talking and I thought she's a very interesting person

and I made note of her and I'll never forget that first time I heard her and she was just so common

sense and very founded in scripture. Her biblical truths were very solid and what she was speaking biblical truth to women and it applied to all women

of all ages and it was something that I found very encouraging and something that I could relate

to and share with other women.

And I've just kept listening to her ever since.

She wanted to support Revive Our Hearts because the ministry called women to a true woman movement, and she realized that

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