Women in crime podcast is where true crime meets criminology.

I'm Amy Slashberg and I'm Megan Sachs.

My co-host and I are both criminologists and have spent our entire career studying and teaching

about crime. We both have firsthand experience working with offenders and professionals in the

criminal justice system. Each episode you'll hear a new, female-focused case or topic,

deconstructed by experts. We'll cover cases involving females as offenders and as victims,

but more often than not, these two are one and the same. We also highlight the heroines of our

criminal justice system, such as Kathleen Zellner, Sheila Wasaki, and Barbara Rae Vendor,

and interview subjects of famous cases including Denise Huskins and Lorraine Obabit.

You'll hear the stories of these women paired with the science that tells you where it all began.

Crime is different for women. Listen and learn why on women in crime. You can listen to women in

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Criminology is a true crime podcast that may contain discussion about violent or disturbing topics.

Listerner discretion is advised.

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 217 of the Criminology podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson.

And this is Mike Morford. Mike Morford, man. What is going on with you?

A little bit under the weather today feeling sick and the kids, I think, get sick and pass

along to me really easy and like a magnet for it, but I'm going to grind through this and get

this episode out. What's new with you? Oh, you know, I'm doing my thing. What I will say is,

you know, kids are great. They're great, but they do pass on a lot of stuff. They're around a lot

of other kids. They're kind of, they're kind of germy a little bit sometimes.

Yeah, my son goes to summer camp and I'm sure he's getting who knows what there and then school

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