Welcome to Karen Hunter's awesome.

I am Karen Hunter and I love to have conversations with people about the things that matter.

And so on my radio show on the Karen Hunter show, I invite people on from different backgrounds.

I'm combing the internet.

When I run up on some interesting clips,

I'm like, hmm, I'll reach out to people on their DMs or whatever

and invite them on the show.

And that's how I landed on Catherine Austin Fitz.

She was talking about the economy

and she was talking about the future.

And she was saying some things that made so much

sense in terms of cash and the crypto and how this current government with the tariffs and I was

like okay let's come on and have a conversation she was educated university in Hong Kong

she was the former assistant secretary of housing and urban development under

President George H.W. Bush. I said she's got some background and some knowledge. I want to

have a conversation with her. Then I did some research. So I knew coming in that the conversation

could get off the rails, but I always want to give a personal opportunity to have a conversation. So the first part of this is just us having a discussion,

seeing a GASNAVIA's here, the founder of fraudsters, and he also does the farm report.

So that's what the first part is. But you want to stay tuned tomorrow for the second part.

But up next, first part of conversation

with Catherine Austin Fitz. Let me know what you think. If you look at the first Trump administration,

he shut down Main Street. He injects $5 trillion into Wall Street, or the Fed does, and Wall Street

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