Hello and welcome to Money Talks, a special extra podcast from Slate Money, where we have conversations with brilliant and interesting people.

I'm Emily Peck, co-host of Slate Money, and I'm here today with Chloe DeMong.

Chloe is the writer and director of the Netflix's erotic thriller slash finance drama Fair Play,

which came out last year. She was a director on billions and the Rocks TV series Ballers

and has done so many more great things.

Chloe, welcome to Money Talks.

Thank you for having me.

So on Slate Money, we usually cover business and finance news.

We don't typically get into erotic thrillers or talk about any of the more dramatic

personal stuff that happens behind the scenes at work, typically, typically.

But I wanted to talk to you because Fairplay gets into this dynamic that people don't talk about

enough, this gender dynamic between men and women, where women are successful, sometimes

more successful than their partners, but they feel kind of bad about it, ashamed.

There's a whole dynamic where the man thinks he's supposed to be more successful,

and when the woman outshines him, well, we'll get into it.

I mean, I should say that the movie is about a young couple working out a hedge fund.

Their relationship basically starts to fall apart

after the woman, Emily, played by Phoebe Dinever, gets a promotion. And the man, Luke, is played

by Alden Iron Reich. People may know him from Solo. He gets jealous. And awful things happen.

So yeah, I mean, we don't typically see this kind of interplay in a movie,

and we don't talk about it a lot. Why did you want to show it on screen? For that exact reason.

You know, I think that it's something that we deal with every day in different shades. I think it's

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