Money, Systems & Microdosing with Erica Ash, Ian Bishop & Julie Cyvonne
The Chris Harder Show
Chris Harder
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 8 September 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
Entrepreneurship takes more than vision. It takes mastery of your numbers, strong operations, and a healthy mindset. In this special episode, Lori and I sit down with our three VIP Mastermind guests who share the tools every entrepreneur needs right now. Erica Ash shares why separating your business and personal finances and paying yourself first changes everything. Ian Bishop dives into why most founders burn out without a strong integrator by their side. Then, Julie Cyvonne breaks down how microdosing is helping high performers break free from anxiety and step into creativity and joy. Get ready to rethink how you approach your money, your team, and your mindset.
HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 Why do many entrepreneurs avoid finances?
08:00 The dangers of not knowing your numbers.
12:00 The seven emotional stages of business finance.
18:30 Top 3 money moves every entrepreneur needs now.
23:15 Why separating your business and personal finances is essential.
26:00 Are you a visionary or an integrator in your business?
29:30 Why most businesses fail when they don't hire a high-powered integrator.
33:30 The SHACK stack framework for evaluating talent.
41:30 How do you build done-for-you masterminds for entrepreneurs?
46:00 Free $1,300 toolkit resource to start integrating new systems.
51:00 How psychedelics support creativity, joy, and liberation.
55:30 Why more high-performers like Elon Musk and Aaron Rodgers are talking openly about psychedelics.
01:00:00 How government propaganda and history shaped public fear of psychedelics.
01:06:15 Psychedelics aren't for everyone.
RESOURCES
Connect with Erica Ash on Instagram: DM "MONEY MOVES" for her FREE checklist
Connect with Ian Bishop on Instagram: DM "TOOLKIT" for FREE resources
Connect with Julie Cyvonne on Instagram: DM "JOURNEY" to take her free microdosing quiz
Join the most supportive mastermind on the internet - the Mentor Collective Mastermind!
Make More Sales in the next 90 days - GET THE BLUEPRINT HERE!
Check out upcoming events + Masterminds: chrisharder.me
Text DAILY to 310-421-0416 to get daily Money Mantras to boost your day.
FOLLOW
Chris: @chriswharder
Lori: @loriharder
Frello: @frello_app
Follow Erica: @fundher_capital
Follow Ian: @therevopscoach
Follow Julie: @juliecyvonne
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We get a credit card and we're like, yeah, I have a business credit card. |
| 0:02.9 | It has my LLC name on it. |
| 0:04.5 | But it is in fact a personal credit card. You've used your social security, therefore your consumer credit to get that card. Oftentimes we don't run into that until we go to finance a car. And they're like, oh, I'm sorry, you're declined. Mortgage. Oh, it's against your debt to income ratio. You're like, oh, that's a business card. I was like, no, it's not. |
| 0:21.2 | No, it's not. |
| 0:22.0 | I did an event back in January on Maui, and we did... You're declined. Mortgage. Oh, it's against your debt to income ratio. You're like, oh, that's a business card. They're like, no, it's not. |
| 0:21.6 | No, it's not. I did an event back in January on Maui, and we did owners and operators together. What we find is a lot of times visionary wants to talk about what's working. Integrator wants to talk about what's not working. Yes. Oh my God. To a T. like 90% of millionaires and billionaires have done psychedelics and just not all of them are willing to talk about it. |
| 0:41.5 | Intentional use for healing that doesn't get out of control that stays at like that microdose and level is the secret to success. |
| 0:54.0 | Welcome everybody to the Chris Harder Show where we are making you unapologetic about your pursuit of success, knowing that when good people like you make good money, they can then do great things. |
| 1:04.2 | My name is Chris Harder and several times per week. |
| 1:06.2 | I will bring you epic guests, solo episodes, and every single tool, trick, and skill set you |
| 1:11.1 | need to grow your business, grow your money mindset, and to grow your wealth to levels that |
| 1:15.5 | you have never reached before. |
| 1:17.3 | I've ended up in a unique place in life where I've got the experience, the connections, |
| 1:21.1 | and all of the secrets that it takes to be successful. |
| 1:23.9 | And I'm lifting the curtain to reveal it all to you in an effort to help put you in a position of abundance so great that you can then be as generous as possible. |
| 1:33.6 | So let's lock arms and let's get started. |
| 1:39.1 | Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Chris Harder Show. |
| 1:41.6 | And this is a very special episode. |
| 1:43.5 | It's one of the episodes that we started doing last year called Just Like You, where we go out, we find your peers who are in the trenches with you right now at the same place as you in your business or sometimes just a couple of steps ahead. And we ask them exactly what are they facing? What are they dealing with, what's working for them, |
| 2:02.9 | how are they getting around the challenges and everything. |
| 2:05.1 | And this series was so popular last year |
| 2:07.8 | that we decided to bring it back again this year. |
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