Hello, my name is Jesse Meakum and this is another YNAB podcast where you teach you four

rules to help you stop a paycheck to paycheck.

Get out of debt and save more money today.

I am very pleased to have with me on the program, Chris Wilson.

He is the owner and author of the website, simplifyyourwhy.com.

Throughout the years, he, well, first, he made a decision to stop, just one decision to

stop wasting energy fighting where he was in the present moment and he took control of

his life by investing that energy in where he wanted to go.

Sounds a lot like what we do with money, right?

So, he says that making that decision took place in a second but reaping the rewards

has taken years.

He talks a lot about journaling and he's figured out what works.

So therapy, medication, meditation, exercise, riding, drinking, water, having fun, sharing

experiences with others, and he also shares what doesn't work like this is fun, a crappy

sleep, crappy people, crappy food, crappy jobs, crappy mindset, yeah, okay, I think you guys

get the gist.

So, his work is for anyone who wants to hit the reset button and create a better future

where you are in control of your happiness and we dive deep into just kind of the mentality

that needs to be there for people to recognize this is where they want to go but here's where

they are and what needs to happen in between.

The parallels with the four rules are obvious, they're almost just, well, they just slap

you upside the head kind of obvious and Chris has his own money journey, he is a wine

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