Money, Lies, and God

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4 • 921 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Michael and Katherine Stewart discuss the rise of religious nationalism in America, its impact on public education, and the broader implications for democracy. They explore the strategies employed by religious groups to infiltrate public schools, the culture wars surrounding education, and the divisive nature of the New Right.

Katherine Stewart is the author of The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism, the award-winning book upon which the documentary feature, God & Country, produced by Rob Reiner, is based. She has covered the intersection of faith and politics for over 15 years. Her new book is Money, Lies, and God.

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0:00.0	You're listening to The Michael Shermer Show.
0:17.1	All right, hey everybody, it's Michael Shermer.
0:19.0	It's time for another episode of The Michael Shermer Show.
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1:07.4	and some of the other, Quillette and some of the other online digital magazines as well.
1:12.4	But anyway, okay, enough for the commercial.
1:13.8	My guest today is returning champion, Catherine Stewart.
1:17.6	She's the author of The Power Worshippers Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism,
1:22.8	which she was on for a couple years ago,
1:25.3	the award-winning book upon which the documentary feature, God and Country, produced by Rob Reiner, is based.
1:32.2	I watched that.
1:32.6	It's really good.
1:33.0	I think it's on Netflix, right, or is it Amazon Prime?
1:35.6	Anyway, I saw it somewhere there.
1:37.7	You can find it there.
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