Okay, here we got. Stand by. Three, two, one.

The thinking atheist, it's not a person. It's a symbol. An idea.

The population of atheists in this country is going through the room.

Rejecting faith. Pursuing knowledge. Challenging the sacred.

If I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth.

Not because I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

And working together for a more rational world.

Take the risk of thinking for yourself.

Much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

Assume nothing.

Question everything. And start nothing. Question everything.

And start thinking.

This is the Thinking Atheist podcast, hosted by Seth Andrews.

There is video of this conversation.

I spoke with Catherine Stewart after the election and before the inauguration.

So we recorded this before Trump had actually taken office.

Everything that we speak about is still monumentally relevant.

She goes beyond the headlines and really down into the lower layers, the money players,

the influencers, the half-century effort for the zealots and authoritarian and opportunists to get us where we are today. But again, if you want to watch the video,

that YouTube link is in the description box of the show.

It was in December of 2020.

When Donald Trump in full grievance mode about the 2020 election suggested the termination of part of the United States Constitution.

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