Hello, whinabvers. My name is Jesse Meekham with another episode of the

whinab podcast and I'm here each week to obsess out loud about spending

purposefully, saving aspirationally, and even giving joyfully.

It all comes down to just, well, just being intentional, just being aware, thoughtful. It all comes down to a state of mind and we teach you

how to get there, basically.

We teach you and then you run with it,

and you get to a point where,

and Kathleen, one of the Wineb,

one of our Winem team members, she mentioned this. They were as one does they were talking to

someone else about Wineab that had not yet started on Wineab. And she said her

husband said to this couple,

our money is just boring now.

And what a victory that is.

That is a victory.

We talked a little bit, what was it,

a week ago, about how negative wins are wins like when something

negative happens which just happened this morning I won't go into details but it was

negative not fun but it's the reason you have car insurance, that kind of a thing.

And yeah, so you're like, you're not going yay, you know, but when you can handle it as if it didn't happen in a way, that's the victory.

And that's when things just get kind of boring.

And boring in the best of best ways. We want it boring when there's a leak and some

water damage. We want it boring when you need an HVAC repair. We want it boring when you go on vacation. Well now, we want the money part of the

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