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The Daily

Monday, Apr. 2, 2018

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2018

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

President Trump’s son-in-law wants to overhaul the prison system. The president’s attorney general bitterly opposes such a move. That has set the scene for a highly personal battle inside the White House. Guest: Matt Apuzzo, a New York Times reporter based in Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is the Daily.

0:09.5

Today, the President's son-in-law, Badley Wonson,

0:14.0

his attorney general, bitterly opposes him.

0:18.0

The highly personal battle inside the White House over prison law.

0:24.0

It's Monday, April 2.

0:34.0

Today, I want to focus on one aspect of American life that remains particularly skewed by race and by wealth.

0:47.0

A source of inequity that has ripple effects on families and on communities and ultimately on our nation.

0:57.0

And that is our criminal justice system.

1:01.0

For Barack Obama and certainly for his attorney general at the time, Eric Holder,

1:08.0

their administration was a moment to really reconsider the way the United States has been fighting crime for a long time.

1:18.0

America spends $80 billion a year keeping folks locked up.

1:26.0

We represent 5% of the world's population, 25% of its inmates.

1:32.0

That's not an indicator that we want to be the leader in.

1:38.0

The big issue here, right, is that the United States has the largest prison population in the world.

1:45.0

Madapuzo covers national security for the times.

1:48.0

So what Obama and what Eric Holder started to do is say, what's driving that?

1:55.0

We need to ensure that incarceration is used to punish, to deter, and to rehabilitate, but not merely to warehouse and to forget.

2:05.0

Are there unfairnesses in the system? And can we reverse that?

2:10.0

Can we actually reverse the trend of where every year the prison population is higher than the year before?

2:17.0

This is our chance to bring America's criminal justice system in line with our most sacred values.

2:24.0

This is our opportunity to divine this time, our time, as one of progress and innovation.

2:32.0

This is our promise to forge a more just society.

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