Hello everyone and happy Sunday I hope you're having a lovely weekend so far.

I wanted to share with you a moment from tomorrow's episode of Saturn Returns,

where I am joined by an old family friend of mine, Max Dickens.

Max is an author, comedian, screenwriter, and speaker.

And in this conversation, we explore friendships,

particularly male friendships,

and I found it such an interesting conversation.

And so here is a moment from tomorrow's episode.

Men seem to have a friendship problem so like why is that on the one hand it's like well why are men not talking

about not able to have these intense conversations and a lot of it's like well

maybe it's something to do with masculinity so it's you know we will not be in with it being feminine. Maybe we are ashamed of talking about things which make us look

not strong or not competent and then there's this theory's psychologist I spoke to or therapist I spoke to said, you know, if

men can have better conversations and learn how to, invert, commas, do intimacy, then that

will help them have much better friendships.

I actually went to talk about investing yourself.

I'd never done therapy before in my life and I was not cynical about it. I just thought it's not really for me it's

for someone with a very you got something serious going on I thought I'm

fine I just got no friends absolutely healthy completely normal.

But it was in the lockdown, so I started doing these weekly therapy sessions.

And after about four months of being, having these sessions, and I thought slightly going in circles the

therapist said the thing is with E max is you can talk about anything in an

intellectual or a funny way but you your friends don't think you can ever go there with them.

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