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We tend to think of imposter syndrome, I guess, from probably most famously Cheryl Sandberg,

who really bought this into the lexicon with her book Lean In.

We tend to think of it with a work lens, or certainly I do. If I think about this with a

parenting, a mothering lens, it's just fascinating, isn't it? Particularly new motherhood. Like,

is there an experience with arguably higher stakes? And if you're a first-time mother, you don't have that experience.

And when you said the expert, I was thinking, gosh, I know a lot of my friends who took that into their parenthood and just thought if they read every single book, that would prepare them or the perfectionist who, you know, the baby's not

allowed to cry and nothing's allowed to go on the floor. Tell us a bit about your experience

being a parent of three and with clients manifest in that way. Like you say, it doesn't just

belong in the works for it and it's most understood in that area, but it can apply to your

confidence as a parent,

you know, your friendships and relationships.

And I suppose in terms of parenting, it makes me think about, you know, turning up at the

school gates and you've got to get everybody out the front door with their bags, you know,

to school on time.

And yet most mothers then get to school and see

everybody else there and imagine they've had a kind of morning that hasn't involved any upsets

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