I wanted to ask you first about something that I heard you say on a podcast in 2020.

And it gave me goosebumps because it felt so true for me and the opposite of what we've

been taught. And you said, motherhood has made me see

that is no one more important in this equation than me. I think because I kept reading.

Like you, I love to research. I love to learn things. And everywhere I was looking, you'd see things, especially

during like pregnancy and things like that. They'd say stuff like, oh, and this happens in the

28th week. We don't know why. And then this happens in the 30 seconds, and we don't know what.

So I just thought, okay, so we are undergoing,

experiencing, navigating this realm that we, a lot of people don't know anything about. And I

think that that's a result of patriarchy as well, just not adding the funding to research

into these things. And also, because I feel like

there is a mystical aspect to pregnancy, for instance, that is meant to be unknown. And that is

part of just like the miracle of what it is. There's the science and then there's the miracle and

they intermingle. But I did start to think, so if people don't know what's going on, it's really,

really important that I, for myself, know what's going on with me. And then I started thinking

about that even more so after having my son that a lot of people don't know what's going. Like,

they talk about every pregnancy is different. Every child is different. Every mother is different is different so I really started to eschew any narrative that was just like as a mother you should do

this and I saw so many images of this smiling mom and smiling pregnant person and I just thought

I didn't really enjoy pregnancies but I don't see much talked about in that regard. So I really had to start focusing on the fact that this experience is about me. I need to know how I feel and not use other people as a benchmark for where I should be. Of course, of course you can see what somebody else is doing over there and be

like, you know what, that's sick. I think I'll implement that. But that person is not like the be all

an end or of what it means to be a mother. I started reading a lot about, you know, the myth of mother

and how because of patriarchy, motherhood is presented to us in such a way that essentially

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