You've talked about healing this perfectionism. What about people pleasing? Because I know that's

something that so many mothers and women actually and humans, everyone, wastes time on. And I do say

it is a waste of time. Have you experienced that and how have you eliminated that from your

life? It doesn't sound like you're running yourself ragged trying to do things for other people.

I could say that as far as people pleasing those, that is completely eliminated from my life.

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And it took time.

A lot of the things that I teach women or I offer to women as far as my own experience

is a way to create shortcuts where I had to take the long road.

There aren't many things in this world that I learned quickly.

Like a lot of the lessons in motherhood, it took me 20 years to learn. But I want to tell this to

young mothers or mothers of young children so that they can avoid all the mistakes. And as far as

people pleasing, I just realized over time it didn't get me anywhere. It didn't make me more money.

It didn't improve the

relationships that I really cared about. It made my friendships fake. Even recently, over the past

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