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Another thing that I kind of love, you know, we're dotting around the book, you know,

that it's based around the five senses. One that I love in the here section is around saying no,

because it's something that I see myself struggling with and my clients. I wondered if you could share

a bit about what you've learned about saying no and your kind of best tools for how people can

start to get those firmer boundaries in their lives. I think first and foremost, it's really

important to be able to say no, because I think all too often we can be pressured to say yes when we

really mean no, because we don't want to be seen as being selfish or disinterested or not very

helpful. I know those are things that I worry that I'll be perceived as if I say

no to things. But the problem with saying yes when you mean no is that it can mean that you take on

more than you're able to. You can risk burnout. And it might be that you end up breeding quite a lot

of resentment to the person that got you to say yes in the first place. So one of the tools that I talk about within the book is something called

the importance list to try and get you more confident in being able to say no. So this idea that

you need to think about what's important to you personally, what's important to you from a social

perspective in terms of your

family, friendships and relationships? And what's important to you from work-life perspective?

So one of the examples I give is I have this idea that, I mean, imagine going on holiday at the

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