When you look at your career, you are a tremendous outlier.

In terms of the journey you've taken and what you're doing now.

That's very kind of thing.

And then you trace it back and go, you've came from a countless day, not too far from

here.

For you to have gone on that journey and achieved the things you have, I always think

there must have been certain factors in those early years that made you take a different

course to those friends that might still be on the estate now.

It might have been, you know, we talked a little bit about values there.

It might have been, you know, I don't know, something someone said to you and experience

you had or just the conditioning, whatever it is.

But my question is, do you know what those factors were that made you an outlier?

I mean, you sound as though you've done a lot of work on yourself and in the little bit

that I know about you.

I get to meet people and ask it.

So I learn so much from these kinds of answers.

Right.

And I've made documentaries for over 10 years.

I was the same thing, you know, you learn so much from your environment if you're willing

to drink in the information.

And I just, in thinking about between therapy and also being present in moments like this,

you know, yes, there are cameras, but I'm having a conversation with you and I'm learning

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