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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

‘Modern Love’: Zendaya and Robert Pattinson on Marriage and Secrets

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News, News Commentary, Arts, Society & Culture

4.79.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

While the “Cannonball” team is on a short break, Wesley is recommending some notable conversations he’s listened to lately from other New York Times shows. This week, it’s an episode of “Modern Love,” featuring host Anna Martin talking with Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. They dig into the complicated relationship at the core of their new film, “The Drama,” and consider how much they actually want to know about their real-life romantic partners.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, it's Wesley, and we here at the cannonball team are going to take a couple weeks off.

0:08.0

And in lieu of us giving you a new cannonball episode, we would like to give you, I, Wesley, would like to give you an episode of Modern Love, one of the New York Times podcasts, hosted by Anna Martin.

0:19.6

And the episode we're going to give you is a conversation

0:23.0

she has with Zendaya and Robert Pattinson loosely about their movie, The Drama, and also about

0:30.2

relationships and love and getting along with people. I have seen this movie. I have my own

0:34.6

questions. They will be answered in a future episode of

0:38.0

cannonball. But in the meantime, here is Anna Martin talking to Sendea and Robert Pattinson

0:43.2

on Modern Love.

0:47.9

Love now and love.

0:49.4

Love was stronger than anything.

0:52.9

And I love you more than anything.

0:56.0

And I love you more than anything.

0:57.0

You're still love.

0:58.0

Love.

0:59.0

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

1:03.0

This is Modern Love.

1:04.0

And today on the show, we have two guests, Zendaya and Robert Pattinson.

1:09.0

The two of them star in a new movie called The Drama.

1:13.2

They play an engaged couple who's about to get married.

1:15.8

And when I watched this movie, I had two opposite reactions at once.

1:20.1

On the one hand, I was like, they are so romantic.

1:23.3

And on the other hand, I was like, I'm so stressed out by this.

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