fantastic day. I am delighted that we've got Hever Braden with us. She's been on my friend Ed

Oppenheimer's channel and he said that Heather is the most authentic, interesting guest he's ever

had. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. In the introduction, he said that your part one was just one of the

most mesmerizing best

podcast he's ever done. Oh, wow. So, yeah, so, you know, you come highly recommended.

We thank you for spending the time with us. My partner, Jen, is co-hosting today. So huge

thank you to Jen as well for coming on. And, you know, we're going to be exposing the model industry,

the predators that lurk within and have his own personal accounts of experiencing these people.

So, you know, it's going to be an inspirational journey because she comes out at the end

and she's accomplished so much.

But there's probably some dark twists and turns along the way so so get ready for this one and Heather you know what got you into the modeling in the first place well I will tell a bit of my

story from the very very beginning um you know when I was when I even younger, as a young, young child, when I was about eight, in Denver, Colorado, I was growing up in Colorado. I'm the first born here. My family's English on one side. And, you know, my parents were very, like, naive from the countryside of England. So I just, I had free range in a big city to do and go anywhere.

And when I was eight or nine, I remember getting scouted for the first time. And I don't know where we were, but I do remember my mother took me to this modeling agency. And they may or may not have been legitimate. But I just remember when I was that young. Yeah, so I was scouted at some point. And I'm guessing, you know, without asking my mother,

I'm guessing it was, you know, the typical we were in a mall or something. Because my mother wasn't the type that would have, I mean, she was like an English country girl. She's definitely not the type that would have gone looking for that. She probably didn't even know what it was. But I do remember having a meeting with these people when I was maybe eight or nine. And I remember wanting to do it, which is funny because I didn't know what it was. I was a kid. And, but I think that it probably costs money to start. You know, you have to put invest a bit if you're going to take this seriously. You have to spend money for photos. And that's just part of it. And she wouldn't have been able or thought that that was something. And around that time, I also had a run-in with a guy after school. I was walking home from, and I want to say this, the reason I tell this part is because it does have something to do with my later life. When I was about nine or ten after getting off the school bus in my neighborhood. You know, we were all alone

at all. You know, their parents just weren't around. We didn't have cell phones, nothing.

And you have a field. And me and the girls that we'd get off, there were about seven or eight of us

girls, all girls, we always would know, and we took

alert to these cars, and we knew that there was something nefarious about the fact that there

were these solo guys in cars cruising our bus stop every day when we would get off. And I wasn't

friends with all the girls. I had one girl there that was a really good friend of mine that I

still know. And I remember one day we were like, oh, look, there's the yellow car again.

And this like butter yellow car pulls up as usual and stopped this day.

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