Hey, what's up everyone? It's Mo Gilligan, host of Beginning, Middle and End. Now, if you loved Big Fish with Spencer Matthews, then I think you are going to love Beginning, Middle and Ends. Now, one of my favorite episodes is with the legend Craig David. We get to hear when Craig David had his debut track Rewind, and they played it a Notting Hill Carnival, and nobody knew who he he was. Also stories about when he was in America and Stevie Wonder wanted to meet him. Now, if you want to hear more from me and my incredible guests, please search beginning, middle and end wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget, you can listen on the Global Player. Download it from the app store or go to

global player.com. Hey, what's happening people? My name is Mo Gilligan and this is the

beginning, middle and end podcast. Now this is where I'm going to be asking some of my

favorite people about how they started, where they are now and the legacy they want to leave.

This week's guest has literally defined UK garage music and shaped my childhood.

We got into absolutely everything.

We talk about his upbringing, listening to sound systems and getting a little cheeky sip of the rum from the old school Jamaican granddads

to him even hustling in school selling crisps drinking nourishment drinks and selling chocolate

bars we speak about his musical journey and him performing on pirate radio stations and DJing

in Miami to even having the likes of Beyonce and Stevie Wonder

come out to his American shows but we know him as a music icon that is Craig David but no thanks

for joining me on the pod brother I really appreciate you coming on I don't know the first time

we met each other but I felt like the first time I interacted appreciate you coming on. I don't know the first time we met each other,

but I felt like the first time I interacted with you was maybe online. Like, I think you might have followed me and I was like, Ra, Craig David is following me. My guy. That is crazy stuff. And I

always remember that period of, because a lot of my sketches were based around UK culture. I do

like different types of MCs and stuff. But also I have to thank you because I remember doing a show in Shepherd's Bush. I said if you're able to donate something and you donate in a guitar and we managed to raise a lot of money for charity. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for that, man. I really, really appreciate that man. I don't think I've really been able to ever say thank you live in the flesh. Do you know what I mean? So thank you, Craig, bro. I really appreciate that man. It's love guy. I feel like you're here there everywhere, but like your demeanor is so calm. So I'm like, wow, like, I swear he had a show the other day, but you just seem so chill. doesn't like look like it affects you do you know what we

were we were just saying off of uh of camera but it's like creating like a safe space that you can just

be calm about what you're doing i feel that's really important like having been in it for for a moment

yeah for a minute and just like the ebbs and flows of of the whole career which is which is very poignant with the title of this podcast that it's you kind of just you start to relax into it you start to you want to hit certain things you want to hit and tick off these things but and if you've been grateful to hit them as cool but then you start to just get in yourself and that's a beautiful place because then you're sort of not up and down you're just be calm yeah you you have that you have that too because I see it in that you can jump into into mode when it's like you know I've got I've got to bring it now you know you're on tour you're doing your shows you're going to bring it but then when you're around your people or you're back, you're speaking,

you're grateful, you're calm, you're relaxed. And I feel like that's a good, grounded place to be for anyone, do you mean? Yeah, man. Too tough. It's like, it will knock you sideways. I think especially being a comedian because being a comic, we're always thinking of funny. Where's the funny in this?

Where's the, like like the simple interaction that you know i've got a black taxi on the way here and i'm sitting there and i'm thinking

i'm like ideas for this and that so we're always thinking of the funny but then it's also knowing that

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