Welcome back to the Dershore show today as you all know is Martin Luther King Day, a day that Congress is designated as a national holiday to celebrate the birth of one of America's great transformative heroes,

Martin Luther King. I was privileged, really lucky, to have been at the speech what's it now 60 years ago I guess I had just started out as a law clerk on the Supreme Court and Earl Warren, who was the chief justice, circulated a memo or maybe just let it be known,

that he didn't want any of the law clerks

to go to this March.

It was a march for jobs, but it was supposed

to be a very big march in which hundreds of thousands of people would come and

descend on Washington.

And the Chief Justice was concerned that the march might end up in violence and arrests and we as part of the

judiciary would have to be passing on some of these issues and so we got instructions not to go.

This is very disappointing to me. I wanted very much to hear Martin Luther King,

he was a real hero to me. I grew up during the Civil Rights Movement. He was 10 years old and then I was. But, you know, I was in my mid-20s. He was in his mid-30s and he was the inspiration for the Civil Rights Movement just a couple of years earlier I had gone down south

trained at Howard University and gone as a monitor and observer I was not in harm's way and saw some of the

terrible things that were going on in the south and saw the segregated bathrooms

and train stations and all all of that, this was, you know,

seven, eight years already after Brown versus Board of Education,

but Jim Crow was still alive and well.

In the south, I eventually married a southern woman from Charleston, South Carolina,

and had some variance in conversations with the family.

Her father was a pharmacist who, by law, had to keep the lunch counter and his pharmacy segregated and so we had a

black doctor who was a friend of his but he couldn't eat lunch with him at his own store

at his lunch counter.

He would have to go up to the office in the second floor and quietly

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