Hello and welcome to another episode of Not Too Deep. I'm your host Grace Helbig. She is a

comedian. She's a queen. She's got her hand in the pickle jar and guess what? She's a woman. We have

Ms. Cracker with us on today's episode. Oh, I can't believe this hasn't happened already, but it has.

And I'm excited for you to listen to it. We talk about everything. Her experience on drag race,

all stars, getting ready for it, her experience in the pandemic, her interest in art. I mean, you'll

hear about some pop school pandemic art that she got really into that pretty inspiring to say to

Elise. Also, her upcoming holiday album would jujube also her upcoming podcast, so many things,

and incredible Queen awaits you. Enjoy this episode of Not Too Deep with Ms. Cracker. Ms. Cracker,

the beautiful, hilarious being that you are. Thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited.

Thank you so much. She's a woman. You know, I love it. Now, how, yeah, what is in your personal

contract on how quickly into anything you do that you have to get your catchphrase out? You know,

I say it immediately to awake myself up. It's my icebreaker for me. So yeah,

you can try to get me to sign a contract to not say it and see how that works out.

How, I mean, okay, that is one of my questions. In the entire drag world, there's so much about

marketing and branding. Do you consciously think of catchphrases, or are they organic things that

happen that an audience kind of catches on to and then you realize afterwards? I am so glad that

you asked that question because my co-pilot, Caitlin, who's been with me for a long time,

she taught me one of the most essential things about branding and that it is a response

to your audience. And so when they love something and they respond to it and they like it,

then you absorb that into your brand. You don't invent something and then force it.

Yeah. Does that make sense? That makes total sense. Well, that goes into my whole, you know,

I want to know how Miss Cracker, the entity, the brand, was created for you. Take me back to

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