Hi, everybody. Welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility. I'm Pete Bigelow, your host and reporter at the Automotive News.

My guest on the podcast today is Brian Reamer, founder and co-director of MIT's Advanced Vehicle Technology Consortium,

which just celebrated its 10th anniversary last month.

Brian and I talk about thinking outside the box when it comes to designing how automation can support human drivers.

We talk about nuances in conversations about driver distraction, the value of highway assistance, and much more in just a minute or two.

If I'm going to eat my cheeseburger, I'm probably going to pick up my cheeseburger and eat it anyway.

So conceptually speaking, I challenge the industry with this thought.

If I'm going to eat my cheeseburger, would you rather I do that with level two assistance

or without?

First, we have a look at this week's headlines from around the mobility realm.

And for that, I am joined by my automotive news colleague, Molly Boygan.

Molly, how are you today?

I'm doing well, thanks, Pete.

How are you? You know, I'm doing well, thanks, Pete. How are you?

You know, I'm probably scrolling through headlines like everybody else. You know, I thought that the,

you know, biggest Elon Musk headline this week might be related to Tesla's forthcoming

Robotaxy Rollout, which is supposed to happen as early as next week. But, but obviously there's a few

other things going on in his world. Yes, you cannot underestimate the power of taxi rollout, which is supposed to happen as early as next week. But obviously, there's a few other

things going on in his world. Yes, you cannot underestimate the power of social media. And,

you know, people's use of social media to make headlines. That's for sure. Yes. You know,

obviously he's feuding with President Trump. And President Trump has kind of responded that he thinks one of

Elon's grievances is that the EV tax credit is set to go away as part of the big beautiful

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