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Even The Royals

Mistresses: Mary Boleyn | 100

Even The Royals

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Before Anne Boleyn, there was Mary. And her scandalous affair with King Henry VIII offers a whole new perspec:ve on “divorced, beheaded, died”. We dig into the story of the hidden Boleyn sister, including how she got caught up in a messy slut-shaming rumour that would come to define her reputa:on for centuries. 

In this funny, fascinating, and scandal-filled podcast, Jameela Jamil and historian Dr Kate Lister pore over the stories of six astonishing “other women”. Women who have been shamed, disparaged and underestimated. Some have been cheated out of the history books altogether. Now Jameela and Kate are placing their stories in the spotlight – to see what history looks like through the eyes of the so-called side-chick.

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0:00.0

Just quickly before we get started, this episode will have adult content throughout, including slot shaming, regal levels of hypocrisy and an execution or two.

0:09.9

I mean, the story does involve Henry VIII after all.

0:12.5

And we'll probably swear a fair bit too.

0:15.2

Definitely.

0:17.0

From the bedrooms of powerful men, we're bringing you the secret histories of their mistresses, concubines and courtesans.

0:24.6

I'm Jamila Jamil. I'm an actor, a writer and a broadcaster.

0:28.4

And I'm Dr. Kate Lister, a historian with a ponchant for scandalous tales from centuries past.

0:34.0

This is mistresses, an audible original.

0:45.6

Music This is mistresses, an audible original. It's February 1520 and we're in a chapel on the banks of the River Thames, but it's not just any chapel.

0:56.8

This is the chapel royal at Greenwich Palace,

1:03.9

and it's only just been rebuilt. There's clearly a special event happening here. In fact, it's a wedding between a woman named Mary and a man called William. Mary is the daughter of one of King Henry VIII's favourite courtiers,

1:13.7

and William is a rising star in the king's household.

1:17.9

By the standards of the time, it is a very good match.

1:21.4

Gathered in the chapel are important people of the court,

1:24.3

but there is one particularly notable person in attendance that we would not necessarily

1:29.8

expect to see there, and it's King Henry VIII himself. Why is he there? It's true that it's a marriage

1:38.5

that he approves of, but it may also be true that secretly he has his eyes on the bride.

1:45.8

It won't be long before King Henry starts an affair with Mary,

1:49.7

one that remains shadowy and secretive to this very day.

1:53.6

But it's an affair that will lead to much drama,

1:56.6

a relationship that becomes tangled up in the downfall of Mary's infamous sister Anne Boleyn.

2:02.3

And it will contribute to Mary being called a very great whore,

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