Mistresses: Malintzin | 99
Even The Royals
Wondery
4.4 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
A look at the controversial legacy of Malintzin: an enslaved Mesoamerican woman who changed the course of history when she became a translator for Spanish colonisers. We dive into the records that have been le‘ behind about her life and analyse her so-called affair with famed conquistador Hernando Cortés.
In this funny, fascinating, and scandal-filled podcast, Jameela Jamil and historian Dr Kate Lister pore over the stories of six astonishing “other women”. Women who have been shamed, disparaged and underestimated. Some have been cheated out of the history books altogether. Now Jameela and Kate are placing their stories in the spotlight – to see what history looks like through the eyes of the so-called side-chick.
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| 0:00.0 | A quick heads-up that this episode will have adult content throughout, including violent battle scenes and some deeply problematic colonial mindsets. |
| 0:09.3 | Plus, I'm here, so there will probably be a bit of swearing, so do watch out for that. |
| 0:14.3 | From the bedrooms of powerful men, we're bringing you the secret histories of their mistresses, concubines and courtesans. |
| 0:22.1 | I'm Jamila Jamil. I'm an actor, a writer and a broadcaster. |
| 0:25.7 | And I'm Dr. Kate Lister, a historian with a punch on to the scandalous tales from centuries past. |
| 0:31.2 | This is mistresses, an audible original. |
| 0:38.3 | We're in what is now modern-day Mexico. We're in what is now modern-day Mexico, and it's been two years of violent, bloody conquest by the Spanish. |
| 0:46.3 | The Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan has finally fallen and the empire has crumbled. |
| 0:53.3 | A Spanish conquistador named Hernando Cortez de Monroix is looking out over the ruins of the once |
| 1:00.0 | great Aztec city. |
| 1:02.1 | The ashes of Tenosh Titlan are the fruits of his labour. |
| 1:06.1 | He has led the conquest of this landscape. |
| 1:09.5 | But he's not alone. |
| 1:13.4 | Standing by his side is someone who's been crucial to his mission. She's an indigenous woman, his interpreter and advisor, originally gifted |
| 1:20.6 | to him as a slave. She also happens to be his mistress. She is a woman who is still highly controversial today. Is she |
| 1:30.3 | a traitor who betrayed her people? An expert negotiator who minimised the violent impact of |
| 1:36.3 | Hernandez's mission or a slave who had no agency over her actions. She's known to Hernando by her |
| 1:43.5 | Christian name Marina. She's popularly known |
| 1:46.8 | today as La Malinche. But we will be calling her by the name that was most used during her |
| 1:52.8 | lifetime, Melinzen. We're about to tell you the extraordinary story of how she changed the face |
| 1:59.7 | of an entire continent forever. |
| 2:05.6 | Melincent is such an important but such a controversial figure in Mexican history. And from |
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