Mistaken Identity

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

It’s been a while since the Remnant featured some spirited kvetching about identity politics and wokeness in American life, but those issues haven’t exactly faded away. Today’s guest is Yascha Mounk, a prolific author and academic whose new book, The Identity Trap, examines where exactly woke ideology emerged from and how it became so influential. Yascha’s thesis is that an obsession with group identity is leading many progressives astray despite their good intentions, and that this is ultimately hindering progress toward true equality in American life. But why are so many people from across the political spectrum falling into the identity trap? What’s the appeal of populism and nationalism? And will Jonah’s growing crotchetiness soon cause him to completely give up on intellectual history? Show Notes: -Watch this interview on YouTube -Yascha’s webpage -Yascha’s new book, The Identity Trap -Yascha’s previous book, The Great Experiment -Yascha’s previous Remnant appearance -Calvin Coolidge’s speech on America’s 150th birthday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:58.7	This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcast brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch
1:03.2	Media.
1:04.2	We have a great guest today.
1:06.5	I think this is his second time on here.
1:09.4	I'm a big fan of his work.
1:10.9	I will use this moment to confess that I have not dived as deep into his latest book as
1:16.1	I would like.
1:17.1	But you will have to have his conversation.
1:18.5	I will.
1:19.5	Well, actually, after doing my homework this morning and yesterday, I started to dive
1:24.1	in and I have questions for you about Foucault.
1:26.5	But I'm a huge fan of his work and I should probably just get around to introducing him.
1:33.0	Yasha Monk.
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