You know, Mike, the big thing, and we've said it, I almost, we've said it ad nauseum, is that in regards to Miranda being read, it is in custody plus interrogation equals Miranda.

When was the exact time that Luigi Mangione was clear to him or any other reasonable person that he was not free to leave

and not just not free to leave because that doesn't signify you're under arrest because while

the police are conducting an investigation, you're not free to leave. That's clear. And some cops

make a mistake of saying that the guy was free to leave when he clearly wasn't.

No, you're on the stand.

No, he's not free to leave until I complete my investigation.

And many times a suspect, once I complete my investigation and I determine he's not the guy, I let him go.

So that's the correct answer.

So in custody plus interrogation equals Miranda.

When was he in fact in custody and under arrest?

And was he then, was he interrogated?

All of those things must be present.

So all the TV stations are jumping on the defense attorney. So they searched him without a warrant. They didn't read them around. They don't know the law. They're just repeating things like a parrot. Mike. Yeah. You know, when you have like a Terry stop, there's no, we've talked about this, the Berkimer v. McCarty case. There's no need, it's not the

kind of stop. That's a more permanent stop where you don't know that if charges are going to come in

the future, car stop on the side of the road for speeding. That's a Terry stop for highway officers.

This way, in this case, that sort of, Terry stopped.

The Supreme Court has said 40, 40 years ago now, that does not trigger the need for Miranda.

Once you put the bracelets on the guy, that's a different story.

Now you stopped him.

You're now intending to charge him with a crime.

You're seizing him.

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