Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bullwork. I'm back here in Washington, D.C.

But yesterday, I was in Minneapolis for the Bullwork live event. We did two there in Minneapolis.

It was an incredible crowd. So grateful to be around those people who have been through a ton.

As part of the second show, which was the Thursday night show, we talked with Zanis Denwick,

superintendent of the Columbia Heights Public School District in Minneapolis.

She runs the schools that have had probably the most interactions with ICE,

hundreds of kids who are now learning remotely, dozens of kids who have been detained.

Most famously, Liam Ramos, the five-year-old who was detained sent to Texas and then sent

back. He's currently back. We talked a lot about what it's like to be running a school system

that is under siege in all the ways in which she has had to adjust

her own life and her own profession, doing things that she never thought she would have to do

and how her teachers and the people who work for her have had to take on this incredibly

difficult role, comforting families, looking after kids, consoling siblings who have

seen their parents taken away. I hope you enjoy the conversation, but more importantly, I hope

you take something from it, which is that in tough times like this, community can rally,

and school systems can be a beacon of hope and they can push back against

pretty aggressive forces from even our own government it was a sobering talk but it's kind of

uplifting in a way i hope you enjoy it i hope to subscribe to the bulwark so that we can continue to

do important conversations

just like this. Hi everybody. So we're going to do something a little serious here. We're going to

do an interview. The person we're interviewing is a genuine hero. She did not offer me weed. It would be a

promise she did. We're going to talk with Zena Stenwick. She's the superintendent of Columbia

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