meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Bulwark Takes

Bill and Tim Couldn’t Wait Until Monday

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Bill Kristol and Tim Miller go live on Sunday—fresh off their Minneapolis trip.

Read JVL's The Triad newsletter, "What I Saw at the Battle of Minneapolis"

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hi, Bill Crystal here. I'm at Fibble Work on Sunday. I'm very pleased to be joined by Tim Miller,

0:05.2

a bit of role reversals as normally I joined Tim on Mondays, but I've got something I've got to do tomorrow morning, so I'm bumped, but Tim was kind enough to come on today. So thanks, Tim. Hello, Bill. I'm going to run you through the ringer here, all right? I'm not going to make it easy on you as in the host chair.

0:21.8

Really?

0:22.3

Oh, my God.

0:23.1

Okay.

0:23.3

You know, so too late to change up people here. I'm talking to the people in the back room here and the control room to get a nice, friendly guest. Anyway, thanks for joining me. We both flew back from Minneapolis Friday after a couple of days there. and normally sort of like to move on to the news today.

0:38.6

But I really, it was so, I think, striking for both of us and moving and, you know, Friday after a couple of days there and normally sort of like to move on to the news today but

0:38.7

I really it was so I think striking for both of us and moving and interesting and I'd be let's take a few

0:44.5

minutes and I don't know what surprised you lessons learned depressing inspiring give me your take

0:50.6

yeah both I came back with a cold I'm not I'm not meant for that climate, so it's even more inspiring that people are out there every

1:00.5

day.

1:02.6

Look, I kind of, I goofed in the way that I framed it on the night of the first show. I went out there and said that, you know, when we initially scheduled our trip to Minnesota,

1:16.6

we are planning on it being there to be in support of people that were in the middle of a siege, you know,

1:22.3

and that we wanted to be there and we talked to Mayor Frye.

1:25.1

And one of the things he said is he wants people to come.

1:33.0

It helps the economy, et cetera. And etc and you know saw ourselves as like a you know whatever like a support structure giving people a night of warmth before they go back out into the streets and and then you know

1:40.6

after pavino left and you know the trump and homin seemingly back down you know, the Trump and Homan seemingly backed down,

1:46.6

you know, I kind of said on Wednesday night. Instead, we're kind of in a more of a

1:49.6

valedictory place. And that was wrong, you know, it just was wrong. And I think that, you know,

1:56.6

being outside of Minneapolis, that made sense because I do think it was a political victory, right? Like, you know, just as in a war, there, you know, victories in the battlefield that don't necessarily yield victory in the war. You know, they, they had won the political battle there, right? Like, Donald Trump was forced to back down. And that's not nothing, you know, because he's not, there's been very few examples of that we can kind of count the times that he's been forced to back down here in the second

2:20.7

term. And, and to have had the actual people of Minneapolis been the one that won that was significant

2:28.0

and worth celebrating. That said, you know, the next day as we went out into the city, and you can,

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bulwark, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The Bulwark and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.