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Leading Saints Podcast

Ministering to Those Who Don’t Hear God Anymore | An Interview with Emily Robison Adams

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Emily Robison Adams is married with three children and is a practicing appellate attorney. She received her undergraduate degree in linguistics from Brigham Young University and her JD from the University of Minnesota Law School. She worked for judges on the Minnesota Court of Appeals and the Federal District Court for the District of Minnesota before returning to Utah. She is a partner at The Appellate Group, a boutique law firm focusing on appeals. Emily has served in Relief Society and Young Women presidencies, taught Relief Society, and currently serves as the Primary chorister. Emily Robison Adams

Highlights

02:00 Kurt introduces Emily and her story. 04:00 Emily shares her background. 06:00 Emily’s faith crisis. She felt like she couldn’t get answers from God. 09:10 A crisis dismantles your framework and the story you’ve built your life on. 11:20 The shame that comes from feeling like you can’t connect with the divine. 15:25 How leaders can help with a faith crisis. 17:50 Emily shares that she dealt with bitterness and doubts and didn’t know what to do with her doubts. 20:40 How leaders can use the tool of rethinking to help an individual struggling with their faith. 23:30 Emily shares how she was able to rethink. She did this by finding people that were feeling the same way. She found books from other religions and perspectives that really helped her. 28:45 There are moments where scripture study feels empty. Find new ways to connect with God. It could be a hike, a walk, ten minutes of quiet. 31:50 Leaders are there to mourn with those that mourn. Be careful about preaching to someone that is in the tender stage of their faith crisis. Try to gauge where the person is at and what they need at the moment. 35:00 Leaders should resist the urge to fix everyone’s problems. Listen to their story. Show empathy for their difficulty. 37:15 Spencer Fluhman talks about how you answer gospel questions by not answering gospel questions but by connecting to the person who is asking you the question. 38:15 How to spot if someone is having a faith crisis or mental health issue. 43:00 Emily talks about sending smoke signals to people when she started struggling with her faith. 45:15 Leaders need to create safety in their wards. Safety to share. “There is no such thing as resistance, only lack of safety.” 48:00 Where Emily is at now in her faith journey. 53:00 Emily talks about how she is grateful for the quietness. How her faith has grown.

Links

Divine Quietness: Finding Meaning When Heaven is Silent Faith After Doubt Stages of Faith The Dark Night of the Soul What Every Leader Needs to Know About Faith Crisis | An Interview with Scott Braithwaite “Answering Sincere Gospel Questions,” with Spencer Fluhman Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast Watch on YouTube Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library

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0:00.0

When someone begins to question their faith, the last thing church leaders want to do is say the wrong thing or handle in a way that will further push them away.

0:12.2

With so many historical concerns or doctrine. that will further push them away.

0:12.6

With so many historical concerns or doctrinal questions, what is a leader supposed to do?

0:18.0

I'm happy to report that leading Saints is here to help with the questioning Saints library. This is a full library of 20 plus

0:24.4

presentations related to how to minister to an individual who is questioning

0:28.5

their faith. We cover topics like how to answer tough questions,

0:31.8

maintaining a relationship when someone leaves the church,

0:35.2

and how to embrace doctrinal ambiguity.

0:37.9

If you want to review all the sessions from the questioning Saints library at no cost for 14 days, simply go to leading Saints.org

0:45.3

slash 14. That's leading Saints.org slash 1.4. While you're at it, we'll give you access to all of our

0:52.4

virtual libraries that cover several leadership related topics.

0:55.8

So click the link in the show notes or simply visit leading Saints.org.

0:59.4

14. I am the Executive Director of Leading Saints, which is a 501c3 nonprofit organization,

1:16.2

and we are dedicated, you know, have a mission here to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead.

1:21.6

Now me personally, I live in Stansbury Park at Utah which is in Tula County. I grew up in West Valley City and I've been running leading Saints really since 2010 when it started out as a hobby blog.

1:33.0

2014 is when the podcast started and now we are over 10 million downloads and man we're

1:39.7

glad that you are now one of those downloads. Let's jump in.

1:43.2

Let's get into this podcast interview. I'm excited to introduce to you Emily Robison Adams who is the author of the book

1:55.2

Divine Quietness finding meaning when heaven is silent and we talk about some

2:00.9

phenomenal concepts here mainly based around her personal story which throughout the book

2:06.5

about when it felt like heaven stopped talking to her God was silent she did prayers, she did the pleading, she did the fasting, but nonetheless it was just quiet and she didn't know what to do with it and led her into depression, led her into questioning her faith and what she believed.

2:24.0

And we approach this from a leadership standpoint.

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