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Mining For Vulnerabilities w/ Erin and Rachel Alder

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Rachel and Erin Alder are a married couple from Seattle. Shortly after they met they became entangled in a situation within AA where their vulnerabilities were being used to control their behavior by a controlling sponsor. In Rachel's case, the vulnerability that was exploited was undiagnosed mental illness, specifically Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. While Erin’s biggest vulnerability became whether the marriage was dependent on continued work with this manipulative group leader. Eventually, Rachel and Erin were able to break free from the exploitation of the invasive sponsor and her high-demand group. They share with Rachel the details of how they were pulled into this controlling situation and describe the fears that kept them there for 7 years. Throughout this first part of a 3 part story, Rachel offers insights into the manipulative tactics used by this sponsor that are so common amongst high control groups. Before You Go: Rachel explains how manipulators can use a sort of unwanted reciprocity, with claims of personal sacrifice for your benefit. She breaks down how they often disguise their intentions of guilting you into compliance as an innocuous social construct of genuine reciprocity. Thanks to our newest Patron Angelica Ceniceros!! To help support the show monthly and sign up for cool Indoctrination stickers and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Want to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link! www.paypal.me/indoctriNATION Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:14.0

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0:17.5

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0:22.8

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0:29.1

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0:41.1

who are Patreon subscribers.

0:43.9

So go to patreon.com slash indoctrination and be able to enjoy those benefits and be able to help

0:51.8

the show stay on the air.

0:53.2

And to my subscribers who give $10 or more a month,

1:00.1

I want to do a special shout out for you.

1:03.2

Thank you to Sophie, Sarah, Ellen, Catherine, Marlene, Jamila, Joseph, Catherine, Kikasei, Ilza, Lynn, Julia, Trimian, Sheila, Polly, Tammy, David, Apostababe, Donna, Jessica, Mislov, Michael, Zofia, Kathy, Audrey, Alex, Penn, Katrina, Sarah, Christina, Christina Ludwig, Scott, Peter and Cynthia, Linda, Linda Jolie, Paul and Paula, Camus, Lillian, and Maureen.

1:51.5

Thank you so much. So, for anyone who gives $10 or more, you get to have your name said by us on the show. For giving $10 or more, you really help to

2:06.1

sustain this show. And we know that you're not doing it just so your name is mentioned. But we

2:11.9

wanted to make sure to at least offer that to you to say thank you.

2:24.8

Music to at least offer that to you to say thank you. Today on the show, we have special guests who are going to be talking about their experiences

2:31.1

in an offshoot group of AA.

2:38.7

The intention of the show is not to say that all 12-step programs are bad or that

2:45.9

AA is bad.

2:48.0

But again, like other shows I've done about it and other groups, there can be the

2:53.5

potential that it goes rogue and you need to know what to watch out for so that you can keep

3:04.0

yourself safe while you're searching to make your life better and gain control over it.

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