Christian.

Welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast.

You ask any chef, any top-level chef, they'll all tell you the hardest thing,

trickiest thing in any kitchen situations, of course, the rice.

I had a rice situation the day so bad that one of my daughters snuck off to toilet to Google,

can you die from undercooked rice?

Christian, if you have a thermonix, I'm sorry, Philippa, I don't have a therminix.

All you therminix people are in the cult of thermics, and he always trying to recruit us.

Oh, you must.

Oh, gosh, we do it, but Malcolm and I, we take it up to Buller and we make love to it.

It's a thermomix. You must put it, you put it in for three hours on the thermomix.

People love those things. It's not just dinner. You can also make dessert sorbets. How often are you trying to make a

sorbet? Yes. Oh, yeah, you sorbet, with your thermics.

Yeah, no, Philippa, shove it.

All right, so rice tips, please, I need them.

Christian, one cup of basmati rice to one and a half cups of water.

Good luck, Rio is right.

You rinse the rice to remove the starch.

Otherwise, it's gluggy.

That's what rice gets with me, gluggy, or al dente, but not in the middle.

It goes to one of those pinballing extremes, and I don't know what I'm doing.

I just chuck a couple of cups in and hope that the rice cooker Merlin's in their work, their magic.

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