Christian. Welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast. Jackie Boy, tell me how you feel in today.

This is an interesting and exciting moment for you. Jack's got an interview on a podcast, a brilliant podcast, one of the biggest ones in Australia called Imperfects. And Jack is a very deserved special guest on the brand new episode out today.

Thank you for saying, man. If I'm honest, I have a knot in my stomach right now about it coming out.

It's a podcast I love.

It's very vulnerable and open.

I'm very happy to listen to other people be vulnerable and open.

But when it's you in that hot seat, it's a very different experience.

And I guess today I'm worried about just what the reaction would be for people hearing it for the first time.

I've spoken a little bit on this show about what I went through when Gordon was born.

And I struggled with postnatal depression.

And it was something that I didn't know what it was at the time.

I was very confused about

what was going on. It was very hard for me to come into this show. It was a difficult period of my

life. And it's one thing to speak on this show for 10 minutes about it, but it's another thing to

sit down with those boys and speak at length for over an hour about everything I've been through over the last

two years with Gordy. And I don't know, you've been on the show. How did you, how did you feel

when it was coming out? I'm terrified, really, really terrified. You know, when I went on and they do a

great podcast and they're really friendly guys but honestly when you go into this

room it's like an interrogation room and it's it's not them it's just like it's black curtains

everywhere and then there's lights in front of you then there's cameras and so it's one thing to

like write a vulnerable post or even you know write a book like I did a couple years ago about

having panic attacks then to go in there and talk about it for about two hours, right?

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