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I'm going to take a hard pivot to ask you about something that I've recently been obsessed with.

Fire away. You are a medical doctor.

You are a board certified family practice doctor.

But you got certified in acupuncture.

And I recently have become re-obsessed with this.

So let me give you a little tiny bit of background.

I did acupuncture years ago fairly consistently when I needed to like chill the hell out.

Like life was 100% fight or flight like all the time. And so I was starting to dysfunction in that.

And acupuncture helped me enormously. I had a friend who was trying to get pregnant at the time and acupuncture helped her enormously.

And here she has two kids later. So I know it has fertility benefits. I know it has parasympathetic versus sympathetic

state benefits. What I did not know was that I am now going because I have like a disgusting

vertebrae like bulging disc, slip disc, whatever, does not matter.

But I am dealing with pain.

And if I go for a run, like it can sometimes shut me down for a couple days, like that sort of thing.

My point to you is I started going back to acupuncture for something I did not know that it did.

And it is helping me not only with the pain,

but the inflammation to a shocking degree. Like I always thought it was like a nice to have.

I never realized it was a need to have. Can you tell me a little bit about acupuncture from your

point of view? Yeah, absolutely. So acupuncture has become less

controversial over the years. You know, back when I went to medical school, it was kind of, I don't

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