Hello, Wineabbers. My name is Jesse Meeckman. This is podcast number 446 for Wineab, where we teach

you four rules to help you stop them paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save more money.

Today I am absolutely thrilled to bring you a little chat I had with a woman.

Her name is Kathleen Slattery Moscow.

She is a meditation and mindfulness expert and she actually

leads mindfulness sessions all the time. You can check out our website that we talk

about a little bit later.

But I just want to tell you a little bit how this went down.

So Kathleen out of the blue, I don't know her, well I used to not know her,

but she sends me an email and she says Jesse you teach mindfulness you're just using money to do

it and then she tells me I need to come on your podcast and tell you how you're

doing that and I agreed.

So Kathleen masterfully draws parallels

between the four rules that you know and love

and how they help you actually be more mindful,

not just with your money like an awareness thing but

just more mindful period it was a whole lot of fun so without further ado here is my

interview with Kathleen Slattery Moscow and she is going to walk us through

money and mindfulness.

Kathleen, welcome to the podcast.

I'm so thrilled to be here.

Holy so we don't know each other.

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