And the Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations and I'm happy to have you join me to

welcome back Mike Rurfefe with whom we had an excellent

conversation in mid-May I believe it was about the state of the presidential race and

now we're it's September 1st and we're going to catch up and figure out what's

happened in the what three plus months since

we talked and what's going to happen in the next two months.

Mike, thanks for joining me again.

Thank you and we're doing video so I'm modeling our new Republican voters against Trump mask because real Republican men and women aren't afraid to wear masks.

Now I'm going to take the damn thing off.

It's not comfortable. Slave labor, by the way, off, it's uncomfortable.

Slave labor, by the way, Bill,

you think we would have done all American.

Actually, I can't tell.

But this is a very cool math, so people want to get it.

I'm sure it's made by only the finest it's made by the finest the finest

workers in one of the swing states I'm sure but yeah right in in in South

McComb County that it's lovingly stitched by hand how are you I? I'm fine. We're working, Mike and I are working together

on Republican voters against Trump, but we won't particularly talk about that, though obviously it

informs our conversation and that's a more granular effort in Florida and especially which we can talk about a little bit but let's but let's step back and be an analyst here and all that and general strategist.

So I mean we spoke May 15th as I looked quickly at polls, it was sort of a five and a half six point

race then.

Now it's a seven, eight point race.

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