Hello and welcome to the Automotive News Shift Podcast, where we bring you the latest on automotive technology, trends, and transformation.

I'm Hannah Lutz, Director of Technology and Innovation coverage at Automotive News and co-host of The Shift Podcast.

And I'm Molly Boygan, tech and innovation reporter and the other co-host of The Shift Podcast. And I'm Molly Boygan, tech and innovation reporter and the other

co-host of the Shift podcast. Today's guest is Mike Murphy, CEO of the Evie Politics Project and the

Evie Jobs Alliance. Mike and I will talk about the upcoming end of the EV tax credit, why EVs have

become politically polarizing, and how Mike, who spent his

career as a Republican strategist and political consultant, became an EV advocate.

I looked around and I thought, why do the Republicans reflexively hate EVs? This is a problem,

and I'm too old to learn Chinese, you know, and I would like to still have an auto industry

in 10 years.

The first, let's talk about the week.

Hannah, you were at the Move America Conference and Expo in Detroit on Wednesday.

How was it?

Move America was really good.

It was in Detroit, and there was a lot of positive energy and momentum there.

A lot of networking going on.

Many mobility startups were in the room.

And there were some shift listeners.

So to those of you who said hello, thanks for speaking up.

And we hope you keep listening and giving us your feedback.

Yeah, there are a lot of interesting companies, EV, AI, utilities, electric fleets, autonomous vehicle companies, V-2X.

And we have a lot going on in Detroit, actually.

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