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to the d l no cindigard on sunday So Lugo now starts on Sunday.

So Cespitus, I got it yesterday that he would highly unlikely in a series.

Now he's rehabbing tonight in Trenton.

It's crazy right now with the Mets.

It is a disaster right now, really.

And the latest, as you said, so maybe you're going down. That's a huge blow to that bullpen, as we all know. He's been throwing a ball good, saving most of them. Kind of looked like his old self. Big rebound here. And now Cindergarde out for Sunday. So it's a disaster. And, you know, you wonder when are you going to reach the bottom

as a ball club? You know, that ball club, that locker room right now is in disarray. It just has to be.

It is, and you can see DeGrom, who goes tonight, and DeGrom is 4 and O. He should be 8 or 9-0.

He's pitched as well as anybody this side of Scherza.

He's been brilliant, but you could also see it getting to him the last couple of starts.

You know, Mike, it does wear on you because pitchers, we want the W.

I'm sorry, I want the W.

That's what drives me.

I don't want to win, you know, eight games and with a great ERA don't want to win you know eight games and with a

great era i want to win a bunch of games with a decent era that's kind of the way my mind works

so it gnaws on you after a while it's only been half a season he looks around there's a lot

of misery in that locker room and on that bench and you have to learn how to that. And I think this kid is just so mature beyond his years that he's not going to let it infect his pitching. He's just too good of a pitcher. He's got too good of stuff. He's too smart. He's too savvy. He's a cagey cat. He's going to be bummed out when his record doesn't reflect as good as he throws, but he won't let it eat him up. Bobby, tell me what you hear from this manager. This manager perplexes me. I know he's young and I want to give him a chance, but after the game, he seems like he's in the ozone somewhere with some of the stuff he talks about. His moves during the game have been puzzling. He's even used his bullpen in a puzzling

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