Mike Cessario
Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin
Rick Rubin
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 76 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Tetragrammaton. Advertising is something that most people universally hate. |
| 0:28.1 | And I think it's the one connective tissue with liquid death, |
| 0:32.6 | specifically, that I think resonates with people, |
| 0:35.0 | is it's not about, you think skulls are cool. |
| 0:39.6 | It's we're sarcastically using death in skulls to bring a humorous approach to something |
| 0:47.7 | that's really innocent and healthy. |
| 0:49.9 | The reason liquid death is working at Target with like Target moms who are not metalheads is, |
| 0:55.6 | I think that's funny that they're using a skull to brand something healthy. |
| 1:00.2 | And I can participate in something funny. |
| 1:03.2 | And, hey, the way that they market, like, I mean, we really think about advertising like entertainment. |
| 1:09.4 | And if you can entertain people, which is hard, anybody trying to |
| 1:15.7 | make it entertainment, like writing a hit TV show, a hit album, a hit anything is really |
| 1:19.8 | difficult. Advertising is easy. Anybody can make a good commercial because the bar is so low. |
| 1:26.8 | It's all just kind of garbage. But if you can |
| 1:30.6 | actually entertain people, they will follow your brand. Like, they will seek it out. And there's a |
| 1:36.6 | lot of data showing it. Like, if you can make someone laugh in marketing, it's like 91% of |
| 1:43.1 | people say that they have a better feeling towards the brand. |
| 1:47.3 | Because I think you've given them something of value. Like, marketing has no value. You're paying |
| 1:52.5 | to force someone to watch something. So it has no barrier on whether they like it or not. |
| 1:58.1 | They're so used to getting something that has no value when finally something |
| 2:01.6 | that is advertising gives them something of true entertainment value. They remember it. They kind of |
| 2:08.3 | appreciate the brand like, oh, you didn't just waste 30 seconds of my life just now. Thank you. |
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