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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI and art will coexist in the future

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

I co-hosted the Code Conference last week, and today’s episode is one of my favorite conversations from the show: Microsoft CTO and EVP of AI Kevin Scott. If you caught Kevin on Decoder a few months ago, you know that he and I love talking about technology together. I really appreciate that he thinks about the relationship between technology and culture as much as we do at The Verge, and it was great to add the energy from the live Code audience to that dynamic. Kevin and I talked about how things are going with Bing and Microsoft’s AI efforts, as well the company’s relationship with Nvidia and whether it's planning to develop its own AI chips. I also asked Kevin some pretty philosophical questions about AI: Why would you write a song or a book when AI is out there making custom content for other people? Well, it’s because Kevin thinks the AI is still “terrible” at it for now, as Kevin found out firsthand. But he also thinks that creating is just what people do, and AI will help more people become more creative. Links: Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott thinks Sydney might make a comeback Hands-on with the new Bing: Microsoft’s step beyond ChatGPT Microsoft Bing hits 100 million active users in bid to grab share from Google How Microsoft is trying to lessen Its addiction to OpenAI as AI costs soar AMD CEO Lisa Su on the AI revolution and competing with Nvidia Microsoft's tiny Phi-1 language model shows how important data quality is for AI training Microsoft says listing the Ottawa Food Bank as a tourist destination wasn’t the result of ‘unsupervised AI’ Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/23664239 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt. It was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:24.6

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0:31.0

Hello and welcome to Decoder.

0:33.6

I'm Neili Patel, Editor and Chief of the Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas

0:38.0

and other problems.

0:39.0

I co-hosted the Code Conference last week, and today's episode is one of my favorite conversations

0:44.0

from the show, Microsoft's CTO and EVP of AI, Kevin Scott.

0:49.0

If you caught Kevin on Decoder a few months ago, you know that he and I love talking about

0:52.4

technology together.

0:53.4

I really appreciate that he thinks about the relationship between technology and culture

0:58.0

as much as we do at the Verge, and it's great to add the energy from the live code audience

1:03.6

to that dynamic.

1:04.6

Kevin and I talked about how things are going with Bing, and Microsoft's AI efforts in

1:08.8

general now that the initial hype wave has subsided.

1:12.0

I really wanted to know if Bing was actually stealing users from Google.

1:16.6

Kevin also controls the entire GPU budget in Microsoft, and access to GPUs is a hot topic

1:22.6

across the AI world right now, especially access to Nvidia's H100 GPUs, which is what

1:28.8

so many of the best AI models run on.

1:32.4

Microsoft itself runs on H100s, but Kevin is keenly aware of that dependency, and while

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