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I'm Lacey and I'm Ashley, and this is United States of Murder.

This week we are in Michigan discussing the mysterious death that is still unsolved.

Then we'll talk about a no body case.

So buckle up and join us on this dark and twisted ride through

the Wolverine State. Joanne was a sweet woman. She was devoted to her three children,

and they lived in Gross Point, Michigan.

So I'm not familiar with this.

I'm sure you are not either.

But Gross Point is a cluster of a bunch of cities.

It's not just one big city.

So there's Gross Point Woods, Gross Point Farms, Gross Point Park, Gross Point Shores, and

Gross Point Proper. So just a little tidbit for you there. So Joanne, she's, she's overprotective.

She's fun, she's warm, and everyone's welcome at her home.

She sounds exactly like my late Aunt Dorothy.

She always had something cooking and there was always, you didn't know who was going to be there.

There was all those candles burning, coffee making, and this sounds a lot like how Joanne was.

She did work part-time at a little boutique in town and she loved it she was always going out to lunch hosting family gatherings she loved to help others she was definitely that person in your family

that always mailed birthday cards am i the only one that has one of those do you have someone in

your family that always mails a birthday card?

It's cute and I love it.

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